Support for high DPI displays


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korg250
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Hi.

I have a 1080p display with Windows 8.1's default zoom set to 125%:

http://forum.macrium.com/uploads/images/8d08ecb2-edcb-42ab-9a77-d707.png

Because of that Macrium V6's icons are all of low quality:

http://forum.macrium.com/uploads/images/921daae3-d587-49a1-9e8f-f80a.png

I know this is a minor issue, but could you fix it someday in the future?

Thanks.

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Hi Korg250,

Thank you for your feedback.
I have created a ticket for our development team to evaluate.


Kind regards

Stephen - Macrium Support


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Well, I hope they'll at least consider Reflect's WinPE start-up handling of screen resolution at the same time.  This business of resetting resolution to suit itself is quite annoying for those of us who like to "customise" our PE builds.  Surely, in this day of responsive UI developments, the Reflect gang can come up with something better.

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This thread is a year old but maybe still relevant.

The text is fuzzy as well, not just the icons.

If Reflect hasn't yet been updated for DPI independence, a user can set a file property on reflect.exe:

 Compatibility Tab - Settings - Disable display scaling on high DPI settings

This will prevent Windows from scaling up "non-DPI-aware" applications using its own vector-style fuzzy scaling, by reverting to XP style management. With that old XP style display management, it was up to each application to scale its UI depending on DPI information provided by Windows. If the application didn't scale, then the higher the DPI, the smaller the application's windows would appear (in other words, they would display pixel for pixel, and since the pixels are more tightly packed with a higher DPI monitor, application windows would get smaller and smaller).

If you can tolerate the smaller size, this should leave non-DPI-aware applications clear (not fuzzy).

Applications that declare themselves DPI aware (in their manifest) are also not scaled by Windows - they are declaring themselves to be capable of responding to the DPI themselves. (Which I guess means selecting appropriate font sizes, putting elements in the right places so they don't overlap, using higher resolution icons, etc.) In effect, they execute XP style scaling, and do a good job of it.

In Windows 7 you could disable the Windows fuzzy scaling for all applications in the Display Control Panel's Text Size settings, but apparently this feature was removed in Windows 8 or 8.1. But you can still make the change for each application that needs it.

I use 125% and set XP style scaling globally. Fortunately everything I use is big enough to read.

http://forum.macrium.com/uploads/images/0dd6b120-05cf-4de5-86f8-eddb.png


Some information here:

  http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/15523-compatibility-mode-settings-apps-change-windows-10-a.html



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Resurrecting this again. If this is implemented in V7 then fair enough (didn't want to create a new thread in that section in case it is), but when I boot my V6/PE 10 1607 Rescue Media on my laptop using its internal 3200x1800 display, most of the UI is fine with the very notable exception of the activity window that appears while a job is running, which displays microscopic text. Since that can obviously be an important source of information, it would be helpful if it were more easily legible, and that would seem to be one of the easiest areas of the UI to update for HiDPI support given that it's just text and very simple graphics such as horizontal rules.
Edited 11 May 2017 5:15 AM by jphughan
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Hi 

Thanks for posting. As you have noted, the text in the activity Window isn't DPI aware.  A dev case has been opened and this will be included in a future update.  

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. 

Kind Regards

Nick - Macrium Support

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Outstanding, thanks Nick! Smile

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Update: The "Image/Backup Options" tab shown underneath the "Backup Definition Files" and "Scheduled Backups" tabs in Reflect also do not seem DPI-aware, even though the "XML View" tab next to them does.  Not quite as important as the activity window, but if you'll be adding this support anyway.... Smile

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Using Reflect 7.0.2199, I now see that the aforementioned activity window and Image/Backup Options tabs now scale according to display DPI within "real" Windows (Win10 1703), but NOT within Rescue (WinPE 10 1607), despite the fact that many other UI elements scale fine in that environment. Another notable area of Rescue that does not scale is the taskbar, which makes the Command Prompt and Restart buttons microscopic on my 15" 3200x1800 display.

Other than that, the only areas I've found that don't scale even in "real" Windows are the two headings areas in Edit Defaults, as shown in the screenshot below, captured from a 15" 3200x1800 display while Windows was set to 200% scaling.

https://forum.macrium.com/uploads/images/c0f6db37-1803-4ce4-9725-c616.png

Edited 27 August 2017 11:43 PM by jphughan
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Almost there on 7.1.2164!  The Edit Defaults UI seems to scale properly, so the only issues I still see are in Rescue (using WinPE 10 1607 x64):

- Activity window text does not scale, nor does the taskbar.  The Reflect graphic in the restore window also appears to be drawn incorrectly.
- The buttons in the button bar of File Explorer and the file browser UI to select an image for restore do not scale.
- Some specific UI text in the restore wizard UI does not scale.  I can't remember exactly where this was, but the text that didn't scale was always the name of a button that was mentioned, e.g. in a string that said "Click the Finish button", the word "Finish" did not scale with the rest of the text.
- The "automatic restore" warning prompt seems to have text truncated, unless that's just a bug where the text doesn't actually exist?

Activity window text and taskbar at 3200x1800 resolution:
https://forum.macrium.com/uploads/images/0fd4f180-e3e2-40ab-91e1-050c.jpg


Restore graphic/horizontal rule drawn incorrectly:
https://forum.macrium.com/uploads/images/33cc501c-fdaa-44be-b5ef-dedf.jpg


Small buttons in button bar:
https://forum.macrium.com/uploads/images/d98fcafc-61eb-45eb-b38f-d29e.jpg


Automatic restore dialog (originally from this post):


Edited 18 December 2017 4:04 PM by jphughan
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