Windows 7 Restore Point??


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Is there any reason that I need to use activate the W OS Restore Point. I turned it off. I see no reason to have it on as long as I have Macrium. I am I correct? Thanks.


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It can be handy because Windows might capture snapshots more frequently than you run backups, in which case you might be able to use the "Previous Versions" tab in the Properties window of a file/folder to recover a more recent older copy of an accidentally deleted/overwritten file than you might have in your Reflect backups.  But even if you never expect to use it, unless you're running very low on disk space, I don't see a good reason to turn it off.

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jphughan - 10 January 2018 7:52 PM
It can be handy because Windows might capture snapshots more frequently than you run backups, in which case you might be able to use the "Previous Versions" tab in the Properties window of a file/folder to recover a more recent older copy of an accidentally deleted/overwritten file than you might have in your Reflect backups.  But even if you never expect to use it, unless you're running very low on disk space, I don't see a good reason to turn it off.

OK, It just always takes so long to run a restore point when I get new updates. Generally I run Images twice a month 1st and 15th. or after a big event on the disk. With windows XP, the restore point only worked half the time. Macrium always works. I haven't tried Restore with Win 7.


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Windows 7's System Restore feature is greatly improved over XP's, which I also noticed failed frequently and therefore never relied on.  But the snapshots created by the System Protection feature can do more than just provide System Restore points on Windows 7; they also allow you to restore individual files and folders to the point of the snapshot, rather than just your OS.  That's the "Previous Versions" feature I mentioned above, but it's only available for drives where System Protection is enabled.  Frustratingly, Microsoft removed this functionality in Windows 8 and onward in favor of File History, which in fairness is better protection since it means your files are being stored in a separate location (external hard drive or network share), but I still found it handy to have local snapshots to allow recovering from accidental overwrites/deletions without having to rely on external storage being available.  And this functionality is still available on Windows Server, where it's called "Shadow copies".

If performance is a concern, consider getting an SSD, even if you only get one large enough for your OS volume and some basic applications and then you install larger applications on some other drive.  An SSD that size is very inexpensive nowadays and even a SATA SSD would make a huge performance difference over the equipment listed in your signature.

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Learned my lesson. The MS Update ( see below) messed up my computer good. I could not do a re-image because I could not connect to the internet, I had turned off my "restore point" ( It's on now) so no safety there. It took several tries, before I could get my computer up. The only rescue media I had was for Macrium 5. It's OK now. MS issued a fix 3 hours later. JMC


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It's definitely important to keep your Rescue Media updated.  The release notes for new versions of Reflect will tell you when the update includes changes that may affect the Rescue environment.  If you see a release like that and the change pertains to your use case/system, then definitely update your Rescue Media.  It's easy especially if you use a flash drive.  As you found, having backups with no way to restore them isn't especially useful.  System Restore is a nice fallback and I personally think it's worth sacrificing some disk space to have enabled, especially back on Win7 where it enabled the Previous Versions feature, but even System Restore won't always be as effective as restoring an image.

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