Blue Screen on RE Rescue Media


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jimrf97 - 8 October 2023 3:56 AM
Just FYI I have that update, tried a WinRE in Windows 10 and booted fine.  I didn't try a WinPE however.

Did you rebuild the WIM in the Reflect Rescue Media verses just recreate a Rescue Media without rebuilding the WIM?

You can force a rebuild by holding the Ctrl key and click on the down arrow on the Build button to select force rebuild.
Edited 8 October 2023 11:22 PM by Reflecting Mirror
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FYI: The latest release of Reflect Home 8.1.7675 version did not fix this issue.
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Reflecting Mirror - 9 October 2023 4:33 PM
FYI: The latest release of Reflect Home 8.1.7675 version did not fix this issue.

Hello --- thanks for the update, just to confirm that building the recovery environment with win RE 10 and reflect 7675 is still broken?

So Unti confirmed we still need to just use win PE 10 to build the reflect recovery environment?     
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Windows RE 8.1.7675 unfortunately, it got to me too - blue screen...error code 0xc000A004
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Frank Esposito - 9 October 2023 5:54 PM
Reflecting Mirror - 9 October 2023 4:33 PM
FYI: The latest release of Reflect Home 8.1.7675 version did not fix this issue.

Hello --- thanks for the update, just to confirm that building the recovery environment with win RE 10 and reflect 7675 is still broken?

So Unti confirmed we still need to just use win PE 10 to build the reflect recovery environment?     

RE 10 still broken.

I did not test PE 10.
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I can attest that WinPE 11 works with the latest update.  Didn't try WinPE 10.

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@jimrf97 @Reflecting Mirror @Pawel Orl
It doesn't matter what version of MR that you are using
.  What matters is the Windows Build Version, and whether or not you have applied a either of two PREVIEW Windows Update patch to Windows 10 Version 22H2.  AND then -- to encounter the problem -- you must rebuild Rescue Media (WRBM or Flash or CD) AFTER installing the Windows Update patch, Until you rebuild your current version of Rescue Media and try to boot from that RM, you will not be affected by it.   If you have not updated your version of Reflect since building RM,  Rescue Media Builder won't detect that you need to rebuild the Wim in the staging area, so you need to Force Build (hold the shift key to get a drop-down list off the Build button).  See the relevant Windows 10 Build Versions in the TWO quoted posts below and take note:  Everything works on Windows 11 22H2 with the preview patch applied or not.
Dan Danz - 3 October 2023 6:58 PM
Dan Danz - 7 September 2023 10:06 PM
I've narrowed the source of this problem down to a Windows Update install of KB5029331 (OS Build 19045.3393) Preview that I installed on 09/02/2023 on the problem system \\hopi running Windows 10 19045.3324 after I had tested the preview update with no problems on my guinea pig Windows 11 laptop \\apache.  The big clue was a third system, \\thimbles running Win 10 19045.3324 never had KB5029331 applied to it, and I was able to build WRBM using MR 8.1.7638 with WinRE 10 Build 2004  that successfully ran when booted.

Well, now I can report that the latest PREVIEW update KB5030300 for Windows 10 repeats the same problem of not being able to create a working Rescue Media using WinRE 10. The error message about a missing NTOSKERNEL.exe is the same when you boot the RM, including the error code 0xC000A004.
I tried uninstalling KB5030300 once, and it worked - I was able to create the WRBM version and the USB Flash version of Rescue Media.
Then, just to be sure, I let Windows Update install the PREVIEW again, and it failed in the same way.   This time, I tried restoring the Recovery Partition from the backup rather than C:\ and Recovery Volumes.   Didn't fix it.
So I restored all paritions on the System Disk from a backup created the same day at 00:30.  All traces of the problem are gone.   And I'm leaving it that way -- with the preview patch now waiting for approval to install it from Windows Update.   I haven't looked, but I'm sure it will be pending as an optional patch on my 2 other Windows 10 systems. I'll have to be alert for it showing up as a non-preview update.
Good luck.  I'm going to be out of touch for 2-3 days 


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Hello —

I took the advice of the folks over at askwoody.com and skipped applying 2023-09 Cumulative Update Preview for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5030300)

Does it pay to way for the October Patch (2023-10-10) to be applied or is it the forcing to rebuilding the RM that will get reflect’s recovery environment to work with Win 10 RE?
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Frank Esposito - 9 October 2023 10:02 PM
Hello —

I took the advice of the folks over at askwoody.com and skipped applying 2023-09 Cumulative Update Preview for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5030300)

Does it pay to way for the October Patch (2023-10-10) to be applied or is it the forcing to rebuilding the RM that will get reflect’s recovery environment to work with Win 10 RE?

It is unknown at this time if the Microsoft patches on October 10th and/or Macrium have a fix for the issue being reported from post # 1 on the Windows 10 platforms using WinRE 10 in Reflect's Rescue Builder.

FYI: I never applied any of the preview Windows patches on my Windows 10 system. I only applied the once a month on the second Tuesday Microsoft patches.

After I upgraded Reflect on September 27, I encountered the Reflect RE Rescue Media bug reported in post #1 by creating a new Reflect Rescue Media that Reflect automatically performed a WIM rebuild due to the Reflect media versions being different which caused the BSOD when booting from the Reflect WinRE 10 Rescue Media.

As Dan posted, once you rebuild the WIM in Reflect due to the automatic rebuild after a Reflect upgrade or you force the rebuild of the WIM will cause you to encounter the BSOD using the WinRE 10 for Windows 10 systems.

PS: Based on Dan's posts, this WinRE 10 issue is only effecting Windows 10 OS. I do not have a Windows 11 PC to confirm Dan's results using WinRE 11.
Edited 10 October 2023 5:59 AM by Reflecting Mirror
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The October 10th Windows 10 OS patches along with force rebuilding the Reflect WIM works when using WinRE 10.
No BSOD when booting the Rescue Media.

There are size differences.

Previous successful Reflect Rescue Media took 1.17 GB of space.
Current successful Reflect Rescue Media took 948 MB of space using the October 10th Windows 10 patches.
Failed Reflect Rescue Media took 892 MB of space.
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