Question on accessing bootmenu after Windows 10 reinstall


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lotrfan1
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Hi

I have Dynabook A55-E that had a disk fault.  I have changed the disk and reinstalled Windows 10. 

I had my data backed up but I did not have an image.  If this happens again, I want to be more prepared so I bought Macrium.

I have created a Macrium image of the computer as well as a Macrium Rescue USB in case the fault (like the last one) prevents the laptop from booting.

I would now like to test the Macrium rescue fob to be sure it works.

However, it seems I cannot get the bootmenu to come up (like it did when I was reinstalling Windows on it) in order to change the boot order to the USB.  I have tried esc, F1, F2, F8, F10, F12 on a restart but the boot menu does not come up.  I did notice during the reinstallation process that the BIOS was updated as well. Also, the restarting and shutting down is much faster than it was.

So the question...How to access my bootmenu?

I could go to Settings > Update and Security > Recovery as there is an option there to reboot from USB.  However, I am interested in the scenario where I do not have access to bootable laptop and wish to use the rescue fob to enter the recovery area.

Any ideas would be much appreciated as always.

Thanks.
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Did you check your system's documentation to find out the appropriate method to access the one-time boot menu?  In general you don't want to go into your BIOS and rearrange your boot order just for a temporary need to boot from USB.  Instead, you access the one-time boot menu that overrides the normal boot order that one time.  In fact due to some fundamental differences in the way UEFI systems boot, some UEFI systems don't even list temporarily connected USB devices in their "permanent" boot order, so the one-time boot menu is the only way to boot from USB.

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jphughan - 15 April 2021 1:04 PM
Did you check your system's documentation to find out the appropriate method to access the one-time boot menu?  In general you don't want to go into your BIOS and rearrange your boot order just for a temporary need to boot from USB.  Instead, you access the one-time boot menu that overrides the normal boot order that one time.  In fact due to some fundamental differences in the way UEFI systems boot, some UEFI systems don't even list temporarily connected USB devices in their "permanent" boot order, so the one-time boot menu is the only way to boot from USB.

Hi... Solved.   Windows had turned fast startup on in the power options.  The option to untick "fast startup" was greyed out.  But above it was the option to "changed settings that are not available".  Click that and the greyed out options are tickable.  Untick "fast startup" and the bootmenu is accessible via F2 during startup as per normal.


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Interesting, although that shouldn't really matter.  Fast Startup in Windows causes the Windows to hibernate just the kernel when you shut down.  That makes it faster to resume from a cold start.  But the boot menu option is a firmware-level function and comes into play before the system even boots from the Windows partition in the first place, so it should be available regardless of what Windows is going to do.  And Fast Startup doesn't come into play at all for restarts as opposed to shutdowns.  But glad you've gotten access to your boot menu!

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You wouldn't use the "bootmenu" to access your USB drive.  That term is generally reserved for the Windows boot menu where you can choose various Windows starting options, which can include an option the user can add to start a boot option for Reflect.  But, you want to boot from your USB Rescue Media.  What generally happens is, as you say, you press or sometimes hold down a Function key.  On my Dell XPS systems, it's F12.  Then, you can choose your USB device from an available list of devices.  You generally shouldn't have to, and it's not recommended, to change the boot order of devices in BIOS to just access your USB devices each time you want to boot them.


Generally, you should get some kind of message on cold boot that your BIOS tells you, on screen while booting, what keys to press to access the device boot menu and the BIOS setup.


EDIT: Oh, you were adding a solution while I was typing when there were no replies at first.  Smile

Edited 15 April 2021 1:18 PM by dbminter
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Hi - Thanks for the replies.  This Toshiba Dynabook A55-E never had any "press this key" info to enter bootmenu even when new out of the box.  When the PC failed, I had to try a few possibilities to find out which one worked..

Now that I know what the issue is (and hence the proper words to use in my google search), I am trying to dig around in order to see why this happens.

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Actually, I can see a use case where boot menu could apply to the menu used to choose a boot device on one's PC in the boot sequence.  When you press F12/whatever.


Some computers don't display such informative information on boot as to what function keys to press.  Try a Google for "Toshiba Dynabook A55-E boot from USB" and see if you find any relevant info.

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I’ve found that rapidly clicking the boot key - in my case F7 - as soon as I see the manufacturers logo allows my to choose which device to boot from. If I’m not quick enough or I just click F7 once it will boot to Windows.
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You might also have luck with simply holding down the F7 key during the boot process.  I've noticed on the Dells I have, if I hold down the F12 key on booting, it works just as well.  Plus, it saves wear on the key by just holding it down and it's more reliable for actually booting rather than hoping a key you pressed at the given time was the right time.

Edited 21 April 2021 7:21 PM by dbminter
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I’ll try that. Incidentally my laptop is a PC Specialist make.
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