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chrcoluk
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Since is no v8 section on forum posting here.

The subject of silent corruption aka bitrot.

Since NTFS has no bitrot protection, is it possible to add a feature to Macrium where you can schedule backup verification of existing backups?
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To my knowledge, the v8 Beta is in its late stage so I doubt such a feature can be added at this time...
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Why not schedule CHKDSK /SCAN /R instead? That'll check the files plus other things.
There's actually no reason you can't use task scheduler to schedule running the command line verification tool that already exists either. 

If you could possibly also switch to ReFS formatted storage as an alternative, since that does have protection from silent corruption.
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I believe the way it's working for v8 is once it is initially released and the new forum section is created for it, you post in the Wish List for there.  I have a few suggestions, too, but they have to wait.

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Beardy - 21 March 2021 12:32 PM
Why not schedule CHKDSK /SCAN /R instead? That'll check the files plus other things.
There's actually no reason you can't use task scheduler to schedule running the command line verification tool that already exists either. 

If you could possibly also switch to ReFS formatted storage as an alternative, since that does have protection from silent corruption.

I already have that in mind, the problem is chkdsk is designed to be run interactively, and I wouldnt consider it good enough, I have had instances where chkdsk /r passed but then macrium still couldnt read the backup (either by restore or verification).  Macrium itself seems able to pick up unreadable data more.

To make chkdsk workable I would need to write a script that either spits out the output somewhere, maybe a text file or something, or to have it generate an alert if a read error occurs.  I would prefer a built in feature.

But is sad to hear that Macrium gets feature locked so early Sad  I will work on a chkdsk (or maybe other 3rd party solution), as after my recent problems of unreadable backups I feel I need some kind of reliable bitrot detection.  I may actually now setup a LAN based ZFS storage system and have all my backups go to that given that ZFS handles the problem natively.

The problem with the ZFS idea, is it adds hassle if I need to access the backups from winPE Macrium.

Also the command line options looks a good bet, thats certainly better than the chkdsk idea.  Thanks

I will also repost this on the v8 wishlist after release as well. Smile
Edited 21 March 2021 2:11 PM by chrcoluk
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Isn't that Wish List section for Version 7 features?

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Yeah the existing one is for v7, but given v7 is no longer developed thats why I didnt post there, but I am guessing the feature lock is just for the gold release then they may consider after that in v8 wishlist section?
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Version 7 is still developed.  In fact, Version 7 will still be supported and updated for a while after Version 8 is released.  I think for like a year afterwards.  And, in the past, even Version 6 got an update a while after the fact of Version 7's release due to a very serious error that was introduced into it by a Windows 10 update, I think.

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To make chkdsk workable I would need to write a script that either spits out the output somewhere, maybe a text file or something...

CHKDSK /SCAN /R X: > C:\path\CHKDSK.LOG

Looks real onerous to me … There's not even enough there by itself to warrant a .bat file, you could shove that directly in task scheduler & check the run with highest privileges box.
or to have it generate an alert if a read error occurs.

Also not difficult. Have powershell send a message or email contingent on output a non-zero return code from chkdsk.

If you download mrverify.exe then using task scheduler to regularly run
C:\path\to\mrverify.exe D:\Backup\Folder\* --recurse --logfile C:\Path\to\verify.log

Doesn't look too difficult to do either.
Details & other command line switches here:
https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW72/Verifying+image+and+backup+files+from+the+command+line

Or even go overkill & write a 2 line batch file to run both in succession.


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Difficulty depends on your knowledge of windows scripting.

I will add mrverify to a task.  chkdsk I wont be using as it isnt adequate.

But I will still be requesting the feature as soon as a new wishlist comes up.

I dont want to be reliant on having to manually check log files, I think if the log file is inside macrium UI its not so bad, but if I set myself up to rely on checking logs manually, it will just never happen.  So I will want an alert.
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